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Dispatchers' CPR Coaching Saves Lives When Every Minute Counts

Originally published on Fri May 25, 2012 9:09 am

Your chances of surviving a sudden heart attack may depend on where you live; some American cities have survival rates five times higher than others. One difference can be 911 dispatchers.

If they coach someone over the phone to give CPR, the chance of surviving goes up. There's now a push to make it universal, but some cities are slow to implement the necessary training.

Becky Cole was eight months pregnant with her fourth child when she collapsed against the bathroom door. It was January 2011 in the Seattle suburb of Woodinville.

"I got up to go brush my teeth, and that's the last thing I remember," she says.

Her husband, Jon, heard the loud crash and called 911.

"She's fallen down, and she doesn't look like she's breathing. I need an emergency ambulance right now," he told the dispatcher.

What happened next is typical in many cities across the country, but it's not nearly as universal as you might expect. When Jon Cole explained that his wife was unconscious and appeared to not be breathing, the dispatcher instructed him on how to perform CPR.

He switched to speakerphone and the dispatcher led him through the process, step by step.

"I was so worried about doing it wrong that I clung to every word that dispatcher said. Because this is my wife, this is my best friend," he says.

Soon, the medics arrived and took over, but Jon Cole had kept her blood flowing with CPR for six minutes.

"Every minute of delay, the likelihood of survival falls by 10 percent. So, you can do the math," says Dr. Mickey Eisenberg, medical director for emergency response in King County, Wash.

Back in 1981, he launched an experiment in the Seattle area, using emergency dispatchers to coach CPR. He was inspired by a pioneering program in Phoenix. He says one hurdle to giving instructions over the phone, in a panic situation, is using the right words.

"Such things as 'center' versus 'middle' versus 'half-way down.' All these things evoke different images," Eisenberg says.

Another huge challenge is figuring out for sure, over the phone, that the person's heart really has stopped. In many cases, there's an illusion of breathing, like a "last gasp." That happened with Jon and Becky Cole. Becky Cole gasped, and her husband told the dispatcher she was trying to breathe.

"That doesn't sound like breathing," the dispatcher told him. "We're going to have to still keep on going on this, OK?"

Eisenberg says recognizing normal breathing is the focus for a lot of training at the 911 call center.

"To an untrained person, they think the person is breathing, but they are not breathing normally," he says.

The call center training paid off right away. CPR rates in those first critical minutes went up by 50 percent across King County. Hundreds of cities have adopted similar programs.

But many still have not, and some have been slower to come around. For example, in Oak Creek, Wis., outside Milwaukee, paramedic Jerry Biggart says he used to pester his bosses about starting a program, but they gave him excuses. The said they would do it once the state mandated it, but otherwise they told Biggart they did not have the resources to do it.

Today, those bosses are retired, and Oak Creek decided it's actually not that expensive to train everyone in the call center. Plus, CPR has gotten simpler and easier to explain, since bystanders don't need to perform mouth-to-mouth anymore. Still, the dispatchers were concerned at first.

"Just because you're talking to people during the most critical incidents," Biggart says, "but it turns out that they really enjoy playing in that role."

And possibly saving a life — while giving a bystander a way to be helpful, instead of just waiting anxiously for the medics to arrive. In fact, Biggart thinks every state should make it a requirement for the local emergency dispatch systems.

The American Heart Association has stopped short of proposing regulations, but recently urged every city and county to voluntarily have its 911 dispatchers coach CPR over the phone.

Dr. Brooke Lerner, a professor of emergency medicine at the Medical College of Wisconsin, says having operators give coaching is a good way to increase the number of bystanders who take action.

"We need to move people away from feeling like if they haven't had a class that they're going to hurt somebody," she says, "to understanding that if they don't do something, people are going to die — and that it's as simple as putting your hands in the middle of their chest, and pushing hard and fast."

Transcript

RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:

And your chances of surviving a heart attack may depend on where you live. Some American cities have survival rates five times higher than others. One difference can be 911 dispatchers. If they coach someone over the phone to give CPR, the chances of surviving go up. As Keith Seinfeld of member station KPLU in Seattle explains, there's now a push to make this kind of coaching standard across the country.

KEITH SEINFELD, BYLINE: For a real-life example, this story takes us first to the Seattle suburb of Woodinville.

BECKY COLE: Hi, I'm Becky Cole, and I was eight months pregnant with our fourth baby. It was January of 2011, and I got up to go brush my teeth, and that's the last thing I remember.

SEINFELD: Becky collapsed against the bathroom door. Her husband Jon heard the loud crash and called 911.

(SOUNDBITE OF 911 CALL)

JON COLE: She's fallen down and she doesn't look like she's breathing. I need an emergency ambulance right now.

SEINFELD: What happened next is typical in many cities across the country, but it's not nearly as universal as you'd expect.

(SOUNDBITE OF 911 CALL)

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: OK, listen, we're starting - we're starting aid for her, OK?

SEINFELD: Listen to the 911 dispatcher. This is during the first minute of the call, while the medics are still climbing into their truck.

(SOUNDBITE OF 911 CALL)

COLE: Yes. She's unconscious. She does not appear to be breathing. Her face is going blue.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: OK. OK, listen. Listen, we're going to start - we're going to start doing CPR on her, OK?

SEINFELD: Jon Cole switches to speaker phone.

(SOUNDBITE OF 911 CALL)

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Listen to me. OK, this is what we're going to do. Bare her chest.

SEINFELD: The dispatcher tells him both put hands on her chest.

(SOUNDBITE OF 911 CALL)

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Right between the nipples.

COLE: Mm-hmm.

SEINFELD: She tells him push down firmly.

(SOUNDBITE OF 911 CALL)

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Do it 30 times like you're pumping her chest and count out loud with me. OK? One, two...

COLE: Two, three, four, five...

I was so worried about doing it wrong that I clung to every word that dispatcher said, because this is my wife, this is my best friend.

(SOUNDBITE OF 911 CALL)

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: Twenty-nine, 30. OK.

SEINFELD: Soon the medics arrive and take over, but Jon's kept her blood flowing with CPR for six minutes.

DR. MICKEY EISENBERG: Every minute of delay, the likelihood of survival falls by 10 percent. So, you can do the math.

SEINFELD: Dr. Mickey Eisenberg is medical director for emergency response in King County, Washington. Back in 1981, he launched an experiment in the Seattle area, using emergency dispatchers to coach CPR. He was inspired by a pioneering program in Phoenix. He says one hurdle to giving instructions over the phone, in a panic situation, is using the right words.

EISENBERG: Such things as center versus middle, versus half-way down. All these things evoke different images.

SEINFELD: Another huge challenge is figuring out, for sure, over the phone, that the person's heart really has stopped. In many cases, there's an illusion of breathing, like a last gasp. That happened with Jon and Becky Cole.

(SOUNDBITE OF 911 CALL)

COLE: (gasps)

COLE: She's trying to breathe.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN: OK. That doesn't sound like breathing, OK? We're going to have to still keep on going on this, OK?

EISENBERG: To an untrained person, they think the person is breathing, but they are not breathing normally.

SEINFELD: Eisenberg says recognizing normal breathing is the focus for a lot of training at the 911 call center. It paid off right away. CPR rates in those first critical minutes went up by 50 percent across King County. Hundreds of cities have adopted similar programs, but many still have not, and some have been slower to come around.

For example, in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, outside of Milwaukee, paramedic Jerry Biggart says he used to pester his bosses about starting a program, but they gave him excuses.

JERRY BIGGART: When the state of Wisconsin says I have to do this, I'll do it. But until then, we don't have the people, we don't have the resources, and I'm not going to take on another unfunded mandate.

SEINFELD: Today, those bosses are retired, and Oak Creek decided it's actually not that expensive to train everyone in the call center. And, CPR has gotten simpler, easier to explain, since bystanders don't need to perform mouth-to-mouth anymore. Still, the dispatchers were concerned at first.

BIGGART: Just because you're talking to people during the most critical incidents, but it turns out that they really enjoy playing in that role.

SEINFELD: And possibly saving a life - while giving a bystander a way to be helpful, instead of just waiting anxiously for the medics to arrive. In fact, Biggart thinks every state should make it a requirement for the local emergency dispatch systems. The American Heart Association has stopped short of proposing regulations, but recently urged every city and county to voluntarily have their 911 dispatchers coach CPR over the phone. For NPR News, I'm Keith Seinfeld in Seattle.

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